The very reverent (or irreverent) Rob Schenck is joining Erin in this very special episode! Reverend Rob shares his transformative journey from a prominent evangelical leader involved in Christian nationalism to a voice advocating for faith-based reconciliation and social justice. Discover how his experiences, theological reflections, and personal crises led to profound changes in his understanding of faith, politics, and love. You’ll hear about Dietrich Bonhoeffer’ s influence, our mutual affection for Abigail Disney, and practical answers to your questions about Christian nationalism!